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hey what's up Craig it's Kevin Megan's

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all the way from Holland just wanna let

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you know I just subscribe to tha plush

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like literally five minutes ago the

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reason being is love what you're doing

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holy hell higher side shatters it is a

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beautiful day in the neighborhood just

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drinking a little drink smoking a little

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smoke here in sunny San Diego i'm greg

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carl wood and i love this episode

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because as a guy who's been digging

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around the depths of the conspiracy and

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paranormal world for a while now

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sometimes things that used to be

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sensational can start to get a bit

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mundane but there's still a few waves

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left on the conspiracy ocean that rock

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my boat and one of them is the idea that

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at the top of these fraternal orders and

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secret societies they're worshipping or

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communing or taking orders from some

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type of non-human intelligence call them

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entities or aliens or demons I'm not

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sure what it is and I'm really not that

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comfortable with a lot of the religious

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context but I still think if you set

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that aside you will see something very

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dark and otherworldly going on look at

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the rituals of Moloch at Bohemian Grove

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the stories of child sacrifice the

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altars in the basement of record studios

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the professor Griff confirmed for us a

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few months back something's going on

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there and because I don't personally

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understand it I have dismissed a lot of

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those rituals and hooded meetings as

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something the elite do out of tradition

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or superstition but would they really

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keep it up if they weren't getting some

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results maybe they're making the

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proverbial deal with the devil maybe the

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reason the capstone with the all-seeing

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eye is lifted off the pyramid is because

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the top layer isn't in this realm

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maybe the elite are so focused on life

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extension and transhumanism that they

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can advance away from draining the blood

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of children to prolong their life and

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just straight-up transfer their minds

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into the machine so they never have to

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pay the piper or for the Christian folks

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they never have to face God's judgment

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or for the New Agers they won't have to

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endure their car

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well however you want to say it I guess

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I just mean that there's a lot of

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cultures to talk about these types of

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things and maybe that's for a reason

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because maybe there are powerful

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manipulative entities just beyond the

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veil of reality and maybe there is some

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great cosmic power struggle going on

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where our shadowy puppet masters are

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really just puppets themselves to the

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bloodthirsty demons of the underworld

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realm aching for release coaxing

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presidents and kings and Pharaohs and

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Templars and Mason's and Satanists to

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open up the gates of Hell or say

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice I

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don't claim to know and it's seeming

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pretty ignorant to dismiss anything in

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this weird world anymore

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but today's guest was curious to get

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some of these answers to these questions

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herself so she decided to get it

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straight from the horse's mouth or

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should I say the goat because she spent

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13 years trying to contact these cosmic

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string pullers of the elite particularly

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the infamous Baphomet himself and the

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results were really really interesting

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but I think this is going to be a Lovat

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hated or be deathly afraid of a type of

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episode and let's just get down to it

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this is not the show that I had really

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prepared for but once we went down this

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path I thought screw it let's go down as

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far as we can so here we go people pack

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your glass and park your ass and let's

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see where this goes with the great

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author and researcher Tracy Twyman on

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the other side

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no pun intended

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when I find myself at times of trouble

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mr. car would comes to me speaking words

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of wisdom THC

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see th see

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see speaking words of wisdom

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folks we know we've been sold a boring

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rigid worker be life we're magic and

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otherworldly entities are best left to

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Hollywood but yet we see many events

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symbols and cryptic quotes over the

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years that lead one to believe that the

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global elite operate in a reality far

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weirder than the one they've prepackaged

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for us a reality that considers magic

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and ritual powerful tools a reality that

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value sigil making astrology and

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powerful entities beyond this plane and

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today's guest has been tracking these

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occult moments in history and as carried

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out Nisa Taric journey of her own for

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many years her name is Tracey Twyman

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author of several books that deal with

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magic in the occult and approach history

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from the esoteric perspective Tracey's

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also pioneered what she calls Alcon

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omics the study of the relationship

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between alchemy economics and the

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evolution of money which can be read

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about and her older book money grows on

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the tree of knowledge as well as some

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previous writings ooh but her newest

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book clock shavings describes her 13

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years of personal communication with

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several entities from the great beyond

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and the insights they have given her

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into the plans of the elite the state of

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our reality and the hidden history that

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got us here it is a wild ride I can't

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wait to take and I'm honored to have her

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here Tracey welcome to THC uh thank you

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so much oh that makes me sound so

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exciting we know how it is in these

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attention spans you got to grab them

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quick but you are worthy of it thanks

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for being here this is a real treat I am

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a big fan of your work into alchemy and

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money and I'm sure we can eventually get

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into that but to start us off this new

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book clock shavings is very interesting

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because I've heard your interviews over

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the years and it's clear that you have a

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deep understanding of magic certain

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entities and invocation rituals but you

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seem to deflect a lot of the questions

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that are asked about your own personal

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experiences didn't really want to talk

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about that journey a whole lot but now

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you have laid it all out there and man

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does it include some far-out stuff I've

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read several excerpts from it it is very

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interesting but to start us out I guess

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I would ask you know what was it that

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got you to start taking this spirit

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entity communication stuff more

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seriously in a culture that at least on

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the surface really writes it off is

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largely silliness well you know actually

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be the fact that it worked the first

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time the first time I worked you know

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that intrigued me and it was pretty much

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impossible to leave the subject alone

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from that point so yeah yeah it's just

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personal experience I guess I hadn't

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really spent too much time thinking

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about it

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before we did it you know which is

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basically it started with my husband

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husband-to-be we were you know roommates

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at the time and we were running the

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magazine dagger bears revenge together

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and we were doing some research into you

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know Holy Grail related studies priority

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of Zion things like that and morning and

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at the time you know we were one of not

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too many people really pursuing that

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subject and we were I would say you know

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among the experts on the topic at the

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time we were emerging into that field me

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and some of the other writers for the

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magazine so we really just wanted to

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know more about the subject we what and

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I think they were there I'm sure you've

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looked into that subject yourself many

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of the listeners have probably it's it's

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a very intriguing but confusing subject

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you know you can just spend years

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following trails of clues and kind of

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get dizzy after a while it all seems so

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interesting and meaningful but you know

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you don't really know where what it's

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all leading agree so it's just like

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something that can be kind of

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exasperating and at the time we just

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thought well wouldn't it be great if you

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could actually talk to one of the the

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guys that was supposedly involved with

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the Priory of Zion who was the artist

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Jean Cocteau we were looking into a lot

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of his stuff at the time we were trying

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to decode some of his paintings and

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films and writings to see if it

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pertained in any way to the Priory of

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Zion that or the mystery of

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rennes-le-chateau the story of the

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Merovingian bloodline the Grail and

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other occult subjects and we were just

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trying to find a greater insight into

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that so we decided to talk to the guy on

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the Ouija board and you know we did get

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a response right away and we talked to

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him several times but I would say we got

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a very weak response in comparison to

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what came next he basically told us that

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we if we

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really wanted to get the answers to our

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questions we had to talk to Kane Wow uh

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so um he came from the Bible

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yeah Kane of Cain and Abel right I mean

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that's a pretty powerful entity there

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you know and well I knew that from some

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of the research I had been doing and

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writing I had been doing that Cain seems

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at least according to some other

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historians basically they think that

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maybe Cain was based on a you know real

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historical figure that can be found

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certainly in the history of Mesopotamia

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but also there seemed to be

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recollections of this figure in history

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from other cultures as well that you

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know this is really one of the first

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kings and the king of an empire really

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and that it may have been basically the

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same Empire that's remembered in the

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story of Atlantis Wow

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that you know he may have been like the

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king of a very large Kingdom and very

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influential in history and then the

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story the story and the Bible is really

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just a thumbnail and a metaphor for what

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happened with Cain

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so anyway you know I knew a little bit

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about that stuff but obviously I learned

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a lot more once I started actually

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talking to Cain so but I would say that

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things really got rolling a few months

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into the conversations with Cocteau when

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we wouldn't we called up Cain instead

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and started really getting very

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interesting responses wow this is wild

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stuff and it's so awesome that you got

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that personal validation at an early

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stage because it's so key for people to

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not just write it off because when it

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comes to people's thoughts on

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communicating with entities like this I

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think the mainstream if you divided them

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up the majority would probably give no

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credibility to it think it's just

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silliness and then the second largest

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group I'd say are folks who probably

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believe it has power but are very

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fearful or superstitious about it and to

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me that's the biggest clue that it's

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something to pay attention to because it

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seems like classic propaganda you know

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first deny all existence of it and

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aggressively claim that it's just a

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bunch of nonsense but when that doesn't

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work you say oh well yes it does f power

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but stay away from it because it's all

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dangerous and evil and right there

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you've probably got 90% of the

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population to avoid it for one reason

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another doesn't really matter why but do

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you think that's kind of what happened

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over time well basically if you can talk

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to spirits from beyond you're getting

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one type of glimpse of what's going on

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beyond our visible reality here I'm

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saying that like we live very much cut

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off from the bigger picture of what's

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going on right and we're meant to it's

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clear to me that we're that we're in

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some kind of prison basically and you

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know we're being deliberately blinded

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from everything else that's really going

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on yeah

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and I've only gotten just a tiny taste

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of you know what the truth might be and

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I so basically I'm saying yeah of course

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it's taboo yeah of course they try to

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keep you away from it and who are they I

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mean I you know the government's

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throughout history the religions that

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they foster and propagate always trying

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to keep this you know the keys to the

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kingdoms of Heaven and Hell basically

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out of the hands of the general

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population yeah and you could say that's

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a you know that they're trying to

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control everybody which is true and also

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in a way what they say is right - and

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that you know it is dangerous because

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you're you don't know what you're I

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don't know what I'm getting involved in

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no one no one else does either I don't

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think how could you possibly know you're

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just like grasping you're reaching

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through the veil you're grasping around

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you don't know what's on the other side

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or what it's going to do to your hand

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reaching through so it is dangerous

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scary oh I can see why people see it

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that way you know yeah yeah I mean it is

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funny because I can get most people to

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acknowledge that most of history has

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been dominated by powerful secret

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societies and clubs and I can also

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usually get them to acknowledge that

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these groups put a lot of energy and

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symbolism and occult rituals and

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practices of these magical arts or

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secret scientists but people tend to not

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make the connection that maybe the magic

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or this communication with entities is a

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major reason why these groups have kept

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the power for so long you know well this

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is what has really been so revealing to

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me I mean the experience of

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to them myself and also seeing the

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things that they tried to get me to do

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the unit because they did try to

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persuade me to do certain things Wow and

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they you know they have a different I

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would say heretical perspective or a

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different version of almost every story

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from Scripture and it's always you know

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to portraying a different character you

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know usually the bad guy is the good guy

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you know this yeah I would think so so

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gender it's what I'm saying yeah there's

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definitely an agenda and it's really

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given me a glimpse into I think they

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deal with other people this way I think

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they deal with the people in the secret

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societies you're describing this way

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especially the leadership and I and I

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realize basically what a lot of these

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secret societies are based on which is

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yes this this communication the packs

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that people make with these entities the

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basically the whole structure of of an

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organization like say the Masons is

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probably based on something like this

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where and they're probably dealing with

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the same entity because after I was

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talking to Kane for a long time we

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eventually got referred to Baphomet and

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that's where you know we really got I

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would say even more insightful

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information about oh all sorts of things

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about history magic and that is a really

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powerful name but I'm kind of curious

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you said that this communication kind of

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intensified with each you know new being

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you that you interact with how how did

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it kind of evolve and intensify was it a

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changing of methods or was it just way

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more obvious that that a being was

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interacting with you well no it was

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obvious the whole time that we were

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interacting with something but like

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Cocteau for instance had a very hard

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time communicating I would say most of

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what he would say is kind of nonsense

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numbers and letters then there was

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speaking in French and I didn't even

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follow a lot of it because I didn't

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speak French very well at the time and

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also just weakness it didn't seem weak

390
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in the beginning because it was my first

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experience

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but after communicating with Kane for

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instance

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I immediately notice a difference of

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yeah intensity in because you can feel

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the presence of the spirit as it's

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talking as it's moving the planchette

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around on the Ouija board you know it

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with a weak spirit that's having a hard

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time communicating and a hard time I

401
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guess garnishing the energy needed to

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communicate it will for one thing have a

403
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hard time spelling out words correctly a

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hard time saying the right thing will

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forget how to say things and then for

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another thing the planchette just

407
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doesn't move as quickly or as powerfully

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and when it really gets going when it's

409
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very powerful it sometimes moves you

410
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know scoots out from under your fingers

411
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even they move so quickly that you can't

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follow what it's saying you have to have

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someone else writing down the words the

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letters as they're being spelled and

415
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ideally this is what we ended up doing

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it videotaping just so that we can go

417
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back and get an accurate transcript Wow

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and you know so you you'd be getting

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these messages and there's no way that

420
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you or any of the other people could be

421
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projecting it it's not coming from your

422
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subconscious or anything because I don't

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have any of that information and there

424
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was some really complicated stuff that I

425
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couldn't have possibly known no one else

426
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there knew I don't have the imagination

427
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to come up with that I'm not that poetic

428
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as some of the things they said and

429
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furthermore it's just moving so fast

430
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that your mind can't spell out words

431
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that quickly and a lot of times they'll

432
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misspell things and then they'll go back

433
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and correct themselves do so interesting

434
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let's let's talk about the Ouija board a

435
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bit because I think for some people this

436
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is a red flag

437
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even people who believe in a cult

438
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communication I mean I hear a lot of

439
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people say that they doubt the Ouija

440
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board in particular and I think part of

441
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the reason in that up for that is

442
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because it's made by a giant toy making

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corporation today even though they

444
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didn't come up with it they only bought

445
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the patent from a guy who had it once

446
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it's out you know once he died he the

447
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family sold it to them but really I mean

448
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these powerful corporations they know

449
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plenty about the esoteric arts and

450
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anyone who examines their logos will see

451
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that but in terms of the Ouija board

452
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what might you say to someone who doubts

453
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the usefulness of it or the accuracy of

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it

455
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well I don't know what you mean by

456
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accuracy but as far as when you're

457
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trying to define divine e.message from

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beyond

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I would say it's the most accurate in

460
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that it'll give you a message

461
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you know spelled out in words that you

462
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can interpret you can have a whole

463
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conversation where as and what else can

464
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you do like that except channeling

465
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directly in which I think is even more

466
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dangerous because then you're actually

467
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kind of letting something more into you

468
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then then I think you are when you're

469
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playing with a Ouija board but not only

470
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that the accuracy of channeling is just

471
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harder I think to gauge because it's

472
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coming through your own mind you're

473
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really kind of put I think you run a

474
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risk of really putting things in your

475
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own words or interpreting editing while

476
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you're channeling so I think when you're

477
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doing the Ouija board with another

478
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person it really kind of objectifies the

479
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whole thing pulls you out of yourself a

480
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little bit and you just basically become

481
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a tool you and your partner whereby

482
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they're able to write out messages that

483
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can be very clearly read now if you're

484
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trying to you know interpret coffee

485
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grounds or in pig entrails or something

486
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if you're trying to read tarot cards you

487
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know it's much more open to

488
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interpretation and also just vague I

489
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mean what you can't get very specific

490
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answers to specific questions so I just

491
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think if you want to actually talk to

492
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them so I talked to something from

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beyond that might have the perspective

494
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of a being from the other side this is

495
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going to be the most useful tool and as

496
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far as the you know the William Fuld

497
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Parker Brothers Ouija board I mean

498
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that's that's what we started off with

499
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with Cocteau but very quickly discovered

500
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that they had their own ideas in mind

501
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Baphomet actually dictated a design a

502
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new we G board design which we produced

503
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it's a lot more interesting and you can

504
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see that there's a little picture of it

505
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in the book and we're going to put out a

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larger version of it the people can use

507
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if they want to I find it easier to use

508
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because you have a little bit more space

509
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to move around

510
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then it's easier to set the letters

511
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apart the interesting thing about the

512
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design that was given to us by Baphomet

513
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I didn't understand the meaning of it

514
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for months or maybe even a year until

515
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you know after it was given because for

516
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a long time

517
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Cain and Baphomet both kept emphasizing

518
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the alphabet itself they kept going

519
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through from A to Z and then B to Y and

520
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all the way like that from the beginning

521
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to the end and inverting it basically

522
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you know mm-hmm-hmm

523
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and I was wondering what is the meaning

524
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of that we kept asking them what does it

525
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mean we got different answers finally I

526
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just was doing some reading one day and

527
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I realized though that's the atbash

528
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cipher that those has been interpreted

529
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as being connected to Baphomet name the

530
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fact is you can put the name Baphomet I

531
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think it's if you convert it to Aramaic

532
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and put it through the Aramaic version

533
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of atbash then the result that comes out

534
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is is Baphomet Wow oh no it's Sophia and

535
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Baphomet that's right now the

536
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interpretation is that Baphomet

537
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basically is a code word for holy wisdom

538
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divine wisdom and that that maybe even

539
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the Templars were using this this cipher

540
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basically so it's a cipher cipher that

541
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for one reason or another is associated

542
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with Baphomet it's been printed in book

543
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they even reference this in the The Da

544
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Vinci Code I seem to remember that the

545
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character that sofía you know they at

546
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,930
one point mentioned that her name was

547
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:34,240
convertible into the name Baphomet via

548
00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:36,730
this cipher so huh but I had totally

549
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:38,440
forgotten I didn't I didn't realize what

550
00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:39,970
the atbash cipher was I remembered

551
00:21:43,950 --> 00:21:41,590
reading about it but I didn't know that

552
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:43,960
what you do to make that cipher is you

553
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:46,720
invert the alphabet so that's what they

554
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:51,130
wanted us to do on the board and so it's

555
00:21:55,410 --> 00:21:52,120
been that way ever since we've been

556
00:21:57,030 --> 00:21:55,420
using it and it's interesting because it

557
00:22:00,110 --> 00:21:57,040
makes different patterns actually the

558
00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:00,120
way they zip around on the board

559
00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:02,260
it just makes interesting patterns

560
00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:05,590
because the way the alphabet is arranged

561
00:22:09,330 --> 00:22:06,280
sometimes

562
00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:09,340
that's cool so I mean I thought your

563
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:11,350
conversations with Baphomet were pretty

564
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:13,330
intense and pretty interesting most

565
00:22:17,010 --> 00:22:15,490
people will know this entity is the

566
00:22:19,050 --> 00:22:17,020
goat-headed hermaphrodite largely

567
00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:19,060
associated with the pentagram and evil

568
00:22:22,530 --> 00:22:21,070
things like Satanism but how would you

569
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:22,540
describe alpha do you think some of

570
00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:24,490
those ideas are misconceptions obviously

571
00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:27,190
you know you were saying that the good

572
00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:28,870
guys become the bad guys and there's a

573
00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:30,760
lot of manipulation involved with is

574
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:32,950
that is Bob from it a victim of some of

575
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:37,330
that well I'd say that Baphomet is you

576
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,570
know a is the devil in a way Wow but

577
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:42,400
it's a particular expression or

578
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:45,490
interpret of the devil so it's the

579
00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:51,520
Alchemist basically and he's kind of a I

580
00:22:55,950 --> 00:22:54,430
say he just it's I don't know because

581
00:22:59,250 --> 00:22:55,960
that seems easier to me but the truth is

582
00:23:02,550 --> 00:22:59,260
that every time Cain or Baphomet would

583
00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:02,560
refer to Baphomet they would use refer

584
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:07,540
to Baphomet in feminine so as but as I

585
00:23:13,170 --> 00:23:09,250
think you mentioned it's a

586
00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:13,180
hermaphroditic entity I think that may

587
00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:15,160
be the most important facts to

588
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:18,220
understand what Baphomet is as an

589
00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:21,910
expression of the devil is to go back to

590
00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:25,180
that you may have seen this sigil of

591
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:25,990
Baphomet

592
00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:28,450
I believe that goes back to this

593
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:32,350
magician named Stanislaus take Goethe I

594
00:23:36,330 --> 00:23:33,850
hope I'm pronouncing that correctly like

595
00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:36,340
that at anyway he had in one of his

596
00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:40,270
books these sigils that were expressions

597
00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:43,000
of Baphomet and on one of them on one

598
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:44,980
basically the front side of it it had

599
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:48,070
the goat headed Baphomet inside of a

600
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:50,770
pentagram the inverted pentagram and it

601
00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:53,530
said Leviathan around it oh and it also

602
00:23:59,490 --> 00:23:57,310
has the names Lilith and Samael which

603
00:24:01,710 --> 00:23:59,500
are two demons that I'll describe in a

604
00:24:05,730 --> 00:24:01,720
moment and then on the other side you

605
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:05,740
have Adam and Eve they actually it's it

606
00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:08,110
has like the upward-pointing

607
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:11,260
pentagram and it has a picture of a man

608
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:13,420
and then it says Adam and Eve now the

609
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:16,720
reference to Lilith and semi L is

610
00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:19,990
important because the the way they

611
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:22,360
Kabbalist described Lilith and Samael

612
00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:24,130
these demons they're like the primordial

613
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:26,200
demons they say basically these guys are

614
00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:28,210
the serpent in the Garden of Eden and

615
00:24:34,530 --> 00:24:31,240
it's a hermaphroditic serpent that has

616
00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:34,540
both male and female aspects the male is

617
00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:37,660
Samael the female of Lilith and that

618
00:24:42,930 --> 00:24:39,550
basically these two guys were split

619
00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:42,940
purposely by God and resulted in Samael

620
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:45,670
basically being castrated and separated

621
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:47,890
eternally from Lilith so that they can't

622
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:48,850
make anymore

623
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:52,090
they can't have sex because somehow if

624
00:24:56,970 --> 00:24:53,920
they do it will result in the

625
00:25:00,060 --> 00:24:56,980
destruction of the universe so you have

626
00:25:02,940 --> 00:25:00,070
these you know formerly United serpents

627
00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:02,950
now separated and you know in pain of

628
00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:05,740
separation from each other and sexual

629
00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:09,670
frustration and what it appears happened

630
00:25:15,270 --> 00:25:11,590
according to if you piece together all

631
00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:15,280
the different rabbinical cabbalistic

632
00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:17,080
stories about the Garden of Eden the

633
00:25:20,550 --> 00:25:18,460
things that went on there and then also

634
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,560
afterwards after the fall the things

635
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:22,480
that happened to Cain and Abel you start

636
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:23,640
looking through all these things

637
00:25:30,270 --> 00:25:26,170
basically seems to tell the story that

638
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:30,280
that Samael impregnated Eve and was

639
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:34,170
probably the father of Cain and also a

640
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,260
reflexively Lilith also seduced Adam and

641
00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:40,840
was his wife and they have lots of demon

642
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:42,940
children together that are out there in

643
00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:44,650
the ether somewhere and their menacing

644
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,800
mankind they're always trying to cause

645
00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:50,080
trouble for humans and one of the things

646
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:52,120
they're always trying to do the llamas

647
00:25:57,630 --> 00:25:54,090
are called the daughters of Lilith is

648
00:26:01,950 --> 00:25:57,640
incarnate into human bloodlines they

649
00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:01,960
seduce men they find they their children

650
00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:04,840
are born and actually grow up in royal

651
00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:07,560
families there she's basically

652
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:11,020
infiltrating royal and holy families to

653
00:26:14,850 --> 00:26:12,880
try to get her children in line for

654
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:14,860
those Thrones and you see this going on

655
00:26:20,550 --> 00:26:17,320
in the Bible and I think it's probably

656
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,560
going on today Wow yeah yeah that's like

657
00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:22,620
that's intense I mean obviously

658
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:25,630
bloodlines for the elite have been super

659
00:26:29,010 --> 00:26:27,130
important throughout history and to

660
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:29,020
think that maybe they're communicating

661
00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:31,450
with some otherworldly entities and

662
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:32,950
they're being influenced or

663
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:36,070
Joost and that they're being infiltrated

664
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:39,070
I mean that's pretty intense but it fits

665
00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:41,110
the story because when you look at the

666
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:43,240
deeper levels of the elite they seem to

667
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:44,769
be in communication with something for

668
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:48,250
some reason well both Cain and Baphomet

669
00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:51,010
have a lot of interest in their human

670
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:53,950
descendants on earth and in fact that

671
00:26:58,830 --> 00:26:56,289
was their only interest they wanted to

672
00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:58,840
basically kill everyone else except

673
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:00,370
their own descendants and that doesn't

674
00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:04,860
mean their dissonance are safe but that

675
00:27:10,740 --> 00:27:08,860
what I when I say that there's some evil

676
00:27:14,539 --> 00:27:10,750
coming from these spirits the ones that

677
00:27:18,629 --> 00:27:14,549
I talk to anyway I would say what really

678
00:27:21,259 --> 00:27:18,639
made me believe that you know was that

679
00:27:24,659 --> 00:27:21,269
they basically just displayed a very

680
00:27:28,769 --> 00:27:24,669
hateful anti human attitude and it had

681
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:28,779
everything to do they said with God's

682
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:33,210
preference for us basically the serpent

683
00:27:40,139 --> 00:27:37,840
was offended that he was asked because

684
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:40,149
he used to be an angel he was asked by

685
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:42,700
God to bow down to his new creation Adam

686
00:27:48,539 --> 00:27:46,450
and he didn't like that this is a story

687
00:27:50,129 --> 00:27:48,549
that's in the Koran you can also find it

688
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,139
in a book called the books of Adam and

689
00:27:54,330 --> 00:27:52,720
Eve which is older than the Quran hmm

690
00:27:58,289 --> 00:27:54,340
and then this is a story that was told

691
00:28:01,049 --> 00:27:58,299
to us again by Baphomet and then kind of

692
00:28:05,490 --> 00:28:01,059
referenced several times later like this

693
00:28:07,529 --> 00:28:05,500
is the real reason why I hate you and so

694
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:07,539
it's like nothing personal even really

695
00:28:11,879 --> 00:28:09,610
it's like yeah we're just the preferred

696
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:11,889
younger brother basically or Adam was

697
00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:14,799
and were the children of Adam and that's

698
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:17,590
the source of the frustration also of

699
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:20,289
course they were cast into hell and it

700
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:22,809
seems that that happened after the

701
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:25,090
Fallen Angels the demons actually tried

702
00:28:30,299 --> 00:28:28,990
to mate with humans or did did

703
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:30,309
successfully mate with humans and

704
00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:32,710
apparently this was a problem for God

705
00:28:38,669 --> 00:28:36,100
and so he cast them into some sort of

706
00:28:40,289 --> 00:28:38,679
prison that's under our underneath

707
00:28:42,379 --> 00:28:40,299
somehow the world that we live in now

708
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:42,389
maybe in some other realm or something

709
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:45,039
obviously in some other room and so

710
00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:46,210
they're very mad about that

711
00:28:51,810 --> 00:28:48,460
and they really want out and I think

712
00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:51,820
that they're trying to manipulate people

713
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:53,620
that they have under their control here

714
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:56,830
to get them out and you know they

715
00:29:01,730 --> 00:28:58,690
basically they're right now they're

716
00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:01,740
working with secret societies and

717
00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:04,270
utilizing all of the mechanisms they

718
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:07,260
have available including the media

719
00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:10,960
economics you know all sorts of you know

720
00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:13,300
aspects of civilization basically that

721
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:16,120
they now control demons are using people

722
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:19,750
and to try to construct a situation that

723
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:21,730
will somehow allow them to have one big

724
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:25,210
jailbreak and I'll get out but um but in

725
00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:27,430
the meantime they they're still always

726
00:29:32,790 --> 00:29:29,620
trying to get out or to get one little

727
00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:32,800
foothold in this world and then what it

728
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:34,540
took me a while to realize but after

729
00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:36,970
analyzing the transcripts repeatedly

730
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:38,920
over the years and looking at other

731
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:40,900
clues as well and in history and

732
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:43,750
mythology is that they basically they're

733
00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:46,360
not alive right they're in some sort of

734
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:50,020
nether realm mm-hmm they're extensive

735
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:53,710
and and at what point can't even said

736
00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:56,410
this you know I am NOT alive don't don't

737
00:29:59,850 --> 00:29:58,150
talk to me as though I'm alive I can't

738
00:30:02,190 --> 00:29:59,860
relate to what you're saying because I'm

739
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:02,200
not alive because they're not alive they

740
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:06,370
need to somehow or they desire to feed

741
00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:08,650
off of the life that we have here mm-hmm

742
00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:11,470
and when they can get a little bit of

743
00:30:16,530 --> 00:30:14,140
that they hungrily feast on it and also

744
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:16,540
they just desperately want to get a

745
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:18,790
foothold in this world where and one of

746
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:20,170
the ways that they do that is through

747
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:22,540
people that they are able to possess so

748
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:25,630
oh yeah they just sometimes they

749
00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:27,250
literally their motivation is just to be

750
00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:29,020
able to you know breathe air and eat

751
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:31,660
food and smoke cigarettes experience

752
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:34,810
life for a little while yeah man this is

753
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:36,490
where it gets really interesting to me

754
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:38,890
because I've had several guests who talk

755
00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:40,810
about the constant references to the

756
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:42,670
abyss or the Great Beast and there's

757
00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:45,130
tons of 666 symbolism out there I mean

758
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:46,780
it's the logo for a monster energy drink

759
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:49,630
it's the logo for the Chrome browser and

760
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:52,150
the CERN Center and I think it was also

761
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:54,670
at the Emmys the stage was formed by

762
00:30:59,410 --> 00:30:57,050
three sixes on top of each other and

763
00:31:01,120 --> 00:30:59,420
it's it's weird I don't necessarily get

764
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:01,130
it and I'm also skeptical of anything

765
00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:03,050
that comes kind of from the Christian

766
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:04,700
perspective because I grew up that way

767
00:31:08,740 --> 00:31:07,190
and you know felt like it was a lot of

768
00:31:10,690 --> 00:31:08,750
manipulation but it does seem like

769
00:31:12,790 --> 00:31:10,700
there's something deeper there that it's

770
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:12,800
built upon I mean is do you think that's

771
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:16,670
accurate yeah I mean sure you know I'm

772
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:19,490
not here to promote any religious point

773
00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:21,050
of view I'm just kind of saying what

774
00:31:28,450 --> 00:31:24,260
they said and how it does seem to match

775
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:28,460
up with what a lot of Orthodox religions

776
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:30,710
will tell you about how the world works

777
00:31:34,290 --> 00:31:32,090
was being what the what's the universe

778
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:34,300
what's going on and most of the

779
00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:36,530
religions will tell you you know there's

780
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:38,390
a realm below and a realm above and

781
00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:40,130
there's good guys and bad guys and

782
00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:41,420
here's what the bad guys are trying to

783
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:44,540
do and honestly so much of that was

784
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:47,930
confirmed by these beings and it wasn't

785
00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:49,250
something that came out in the first

786
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:52,760
conversation you know but because we had

787
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:54,050
a lot to talk about you know I knew I

788
00:31:59,800 --> 00:31:57,890
had a lot of knowledge already about you

789
00:32:03,040 --> 00:31:59,810
know occultism secret societies and

790
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:03,050
things like that so there was I think

791
00:32:09,810 --> 00:32:06,410
quite a lot of bases too for us to build

792
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:09,820
a rapport I guess with each other and so

793
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:13,130
um I was able to kind of milk this stuff

794
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:14,570
out of them I guess and also I think

795
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:19,100
they lose their ability to lie after a

796
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:21,470
while you know or they things just slip

797
00:32:25,150 --> 00:32:23,810
out you know or they they get

798
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:25,160
comfortable talking to you and they just

799
00:32:30,370 --> 00:32:26,570
kind of tell you oh by the way we hate

800
00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:30,380
humans we're training Wow whereas they

801
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:33,140
you know after after months of talking

802
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:39,170
about scriptures and and like esoteric

803
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:41,450
analysis of things that you know though

804
00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:43,370
this this kind of stuff will just slip

805
00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:46,760
out every now innit so that's so

806
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:48,740
interesting I mean do you think some of

807
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:51,710
these 666 references that we see in the

808
00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:54,050
mainstream culture are part of this

809
00:32:58,390 --> 00:32:55,700
foothold that you were talking about

810
00:33:00,880 --> 00:32:58,400
that they're trying to get yeah but I

811
00:33:03,490 --> 00:33:00,890
mean I don't want to be too alarmist

812
00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:03,500
because of course it's ever since Jesus

813
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:05,240
basically people have been saying that

814
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:07,790
the Second Coming is happening and the

815
00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:10,940
end times are coming so you know I get

816
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:12,620
it could it could very well be they're

817
00:33:17,170 --> 00:33:14,750
always coming you know this is an aspect

818
00:33:21,130 --> 00:33:17,180
of life I think there's some truth to

819
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,140
that that the end is always near but um

820
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:23,120
but it does seem like in popular culture

821
00:33:27,610 --> 00:33:24,890
people are so comfortable with it now

822
00:33:31,870 --> 00:33:27,620
and if you really want to be paranoid

823
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:31,880
sometimes just watch fiction television

824
00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:35,390
shows and movies sometimes even don't

825
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:37,400
watch but like look to the side and just

826
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:39,230
listen to the dialogue mm-hmm you'll

827
00:33:44,170 --> 00:33:41,930
pick up on things that mean so much more

828
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:44,180
outside of the context of the film

829
00:33:47,770 --> 00:33:46,130
itself you know that you you can think

830
00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:47,780
that sometimes I think these films the

831
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:51,740
story itself is like the just the first

832
00:33:56,380 --> 00:33:53,750
layer you know that was the public to

833
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:56,390
consume and then if you look deeper

834
00:34:02,410 --> 00:33:59,360
there's an entirely different not just

835
00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:02,420
plot but message and and so what I find

836
00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:05,660
is I say for instance he-man okay right

837
00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:06,020
on

838
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:11,120
really loves watching he-man so we've

839
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:12,860
been watching the whole thing I've seen

840
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:14,570
these episodes over and over again every

841
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:16,970
single he-man is about the same thing

842
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:18,710
it's about the fall of Eden and it's

843
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:21,110
about the apocalypse which are connected

844
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:22,850
events and possibly the same thing in a

845
00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:24,650
way the end is connected to the

846
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:27,860
beginning mm-hmm just there's you know

847
00:34:33,550 --> 00:34:31,730
there's beast man there's a Skeletor

848
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:33,560
there's that there's an others a beast

849
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:35,750
Island I believe at one point and so

850
00:34:40,090 --> 00:34:36,890
what you see over and over again is the

851
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:40,100
story of there's the the demons or the

852
00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:42,770
bad guys that are somehow in imprisoned

853
00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:45,800
on an island in a castle in the in the

854
00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:48,140
dungeons they're forced to work in the

855
00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:50,840
mines and then they're you know they're

856
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:53,270
always plotting to get out and then what

857
00:34:57,820 --> 00:34:54,410
are the what do they want to do they

858
00:35:02,740 --> 00:34:57,830
want to sack Eternia Eternia is eaten

859
00:35:05,350 --> 00:35:02,750
and this is what umm the story that Cain

860
00:35:06,970 --> 00:35:05,360
kept telling us and which a lot a large

861
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:06,980
portion of clock shavings is really

862
00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:09,440
devoted to and analyzing this story

863
00:35:15,310 --> 00:35:13,220
mm-hmm is about the fall of Eden he said

864
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:15,320
the game of chess is actually based on

865
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:17,480
this that is that was an interesting

866
00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:19,730
aspect to it yeah the UH the different

867
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:22,820
colored tiles are actually like you know

868
00:35:26,609 --> 00:35:24,260
the merging

869
00:35:29,859 --> 00:35:26,619
the two realms or something like that I

870
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:29,869
yeah I think so well it's it's it's kind

871
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:31,840
of complicated still we're still

872
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:34,640
figuring out some of the meaning of what

873
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:39,020
was told to us but the story that first

874
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:40,700
came out the way Kane described it he

875
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:44,180
said that the fall of Eden in the fall

876
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:46,730
of Atlantis were the same thing and that

877
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:49,670
it was really a war and that war

878
00:35:57,340 --> 00:35:53,570
resulted in the submerging of this

879
00:36:00,520 --> 00:35:57,350
kingdom where at that Kingdom there was

880
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:00,530
this thing called the ark now in the

881
00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:03,050
story of Noah's Ark the the Ark is a

882
00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:05,240
boat and then of course in the story of

883
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,369
the Ark of the Covenant the Ark is a you

884
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:10,400
know something that contains the essence

885
00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:15,290
of God mm-hmm well the way Cain and also

886
00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:16,790
some of the other beings described

887
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:17,900
because they all talked about the ark

888
00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:19,790
and what they all said is that basically

889
00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:21,350
the Ark was this what they called one

890
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:22,430
box of things

891
00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:24,890
it is the treasure box it has all the

892
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:26,780
power in it all that all the things that

893
00:36:32,109 --> 00:36:29,810
you would want the Pandora's box exactly

894
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:32,119
the Holy Grail and really the all these

895
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:34,910
symbols the Grail that you've heard the

896
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:36,770
Grail can be a stone or the Grail can be

897
00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:38,690
a cup well it's because it's it's all

898
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:41,240
part of the same contraction it's a box

899
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:44,030
that somehow contains something that can

900
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:45,830
give you anything you want something

901
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:47,390
that can it is ultimate power like

902
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:50,570
godlike power and in once I started

903
00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:52,550
looking into the Eden story a little bit

904
00:36:56,859 --> 00:36:54,920
more not only in the Bible but then also

905
00:36:58,750 --> 00:36:56,869
some of the way some of the secret

906
00:37:01,330 --> 00:36:58,760
societies portray it in their rituals

907
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:01,340
I got a bigger idea of what he was

908
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:03,650
talking about and the idea is that yes

909
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,930
this there was at one point the the

910
00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:08,240
beginning is thought of as eating there

911
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,500
was this treasure box there that

912
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:14,480
contains like I'm saying this this Holy

913
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:17,030
Grail sort of object and really the

914
00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:19,730
value it had was that it was it could

915
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:22,100
give eternal life that was really what

916
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:25,130
Cain cared about hmm and he said that he

917
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:27,800
was trying to he wanted youth for

918
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:29,450
himself he wanted eternal youth and he

919
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:31,130
was trying to save Eve his mother he

920
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:34,550
didn't want to watch her die so that you

921
00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:37,730
know his lust to contain and control

922
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:39,830
this box which then makes you sort of

923
00:37:44,109 --> 00:37:41,390
the controller of everything if you have

924
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:44,119
the box again makes you in charge of

925
00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:46,430
everything someone that's he kept

926
00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:48,080
describing a tell-all so as the throne

927
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:50,420
of Adam so he said that there was this

928
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:52,609
war in Eden over the throne of Adam

929
00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:54,770
which was and it was also the Ark and

930
00:37:59,740 --> 00:37:57,950
the war was between him and children of

931
00:38:01,930 --> 00:37:59,750
his actually descendants of his that had

932
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:01,940
grown up and had their own kingdoms hmm

933
00:38:07,450 --> 00:38:04,490
you know so and he said it is what kind

934
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:07,460
of war is this what kind of weapons are

935
00:38:11,950 --> 00:38:10,700
you using he said swords and axes so you

936
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:11,960
know and then I'm thinking like Lord of

937
00:38:19,810 --> 00:38:15,140
the Rings about all these guys like in

938
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:19,820
some sort of fent fantasy realm having

939
00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:23,270
an old-fashioned war yeah we've had but

940
00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:25,640
then and then but then somehow that

941
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:29,060
results in this whole kingdom going

942
00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:29,690
underwater

943
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:32,600
Eden years later I looked into this

944
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:34,780
whole story a lot more like I said and

945
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,330
piecing it together also with the the

946
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,400
Mesopotamian stories of the flood and

947
00:38:45,609 --> 00:38:43,040
they also then all those stories linked

948
00:38:48,130 --> 00:38:45,619
up to this this object the plant of

949
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:48,140
immortality supposedly that was there in

950
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:50,390
the realm of the gods what it seems like

951
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:53,150
is that almost all of Eden got submerged

952
00:38:57,609 --> 00:38:56,090
but then there's this one part the what

953
00:39:01,450 --> 00:38:57,619
the Rosicrucians refer to as the

954
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:01,460
supernal Eden that was preserved like

955
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:03,650
you know in the Bible it says God put

956
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:05,540
the flaming sword around the Tree of

957
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:08,090
Life to keep it from Adam and Eve after

958
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:09,950
they the tree of knowledge all of a

959
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:11,450
sudden God became concerned that they

960
00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:12,710
would eat from the tree of life and

961
00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:15,980
become a mortal and then nothing would

962
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:19,190
be impossible for them he said like they

963
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:21,410
have the knowledge of God now and now if

964
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:22,700
they can just live forever they'll be

965
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,530
able to do whatever they want so I'm not

966
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:26,480
gonna let them do that okay right Oh

967
00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:29,690
whole realm where the Tree of Life is

968
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:31,940
whatever that is mm-hmm it gets really

969
00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:34,150
tough because it's all seeped in

970
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:36,590
symbolism and you know it's probably not

971
00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:39,470
a literal tree but it's something it

972
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:42,380
gets it gets kind of hairy well it's

973
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:44,510
probably not a literal tree yeah but I'm

974
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:46,520
getting glimpses the more I look into it

975
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,609
of what is it you know and why how does

976
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:51,680
it provide immortality

977
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:55,130
and it's a strangely it has something to

978
00:40:01,000 --> 00:39:57,650
do with the consumption of blood and the

979
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:01,010
consumption of vital energy Wow now this

980
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:02,450
is something that we hear about all the

981
00:40:06,190 --> 00:40:04,190
time in the conspiracy world that the

982
00:40:08,590 --> 00:40:06,200
elite are doing I've heard really creepy

983
00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:08,600
stories about them doing full blood

984
00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:11,030
transfusion rituals with children so the

985
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:14,540
idea this vampiric idea of consuming

986
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:16,610
blood is not that it's not really that

987
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:19,550
far removed from modern times no no I

988
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:22,910
mean I think every day if I went looking

989
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:25,370
for it I could probably find some news

990
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,890
story that connects to this wha whether

991
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:30,320
it's like a story of someone that

992
00:40:35,290 --> 00:40:31,970
attacked another person to drink their

993
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:35,300
blood or just a science story that comes

994
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:37,820
out oh by the way you know there's this

995
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:39,650
great anti-aging technique that comes

996
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:42,800
from drinking the blood young people and

997
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:44,450
I mean I there was a story about that

998
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:46,490
just a few months ago and similar things

999
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:48,050
all the time so yeah I mean it's true

1000
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,330
and it's almost obvious if you think

1001
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:52,640
about it but it's something that's been

1002
00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:54,230
known about forever that you know this

1003
00:40:59,770 --> 00:40:56,260
is a this is one of the ways of

1004
00:41:01,600 --> 00:40:59,780
preserving yourself is to consume the

1005
00:41:04,270 --> 00:41:01,610
essence of things that are already young

1006
00:41:05,890 --> 00:41:04,280
in a weird way if you think about the

1007
00:41:07,450 --> 00:41:05,900
efficiency of the universe you know I

1008
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,460
have a lot of guests that talk about the

1009
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:09,920
universe being a perfect system and all

1010
00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:12,230
this it's kind of morbid but it's almost

1011
00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:15,080
like a checks and balances system for

1012
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:16,940
the population because if you want to

1013
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:18,620
keep the older people around longer

1014
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:19,730
you're going to have to kill the younger

1015
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:22,090
people it's like almost like a weird

1016
00:41:25,810 --> 00:41:24,410
balancing act to make sure that too many

1017
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:25,820
people aren't around because you can't

1018
00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:26,960
have one without the other you're going

1019
00:41:29,110 --> 00:41:28,340
to have young people growing up or

1020
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:29,120
you're going to have old people

1021
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:31,180
sacrificing young people to stay around

1022
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:34,370
well I mean what's the it's hard to

1023
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:39,130
justify the value of keeping a

1024
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:43,010
population of elderly and not allowing

1025
00:41:49,660 --> 00:41:45,560
young people to live a great degree I

1026
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,670
mean and of course it's that's why I

1027
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:51,040
objected to what you were saying about

1028
00:41:54,490 --> 00:41:52,970
keeping some kind of balance I mean how

1029
00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:54,500
is it any kind of balance of course old

1030
00:41:58,210 --> 00:41:56,510
people that are doing that are

1031
00:42:02,200 --> 00:41:58,220
participating in the system like that

1032
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:02,210
are basically just refusing to die or to

1033
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:04,150
age and

1034
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:06,340
they're always going to just of course

1035
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,800
because they're any any old person any

1036
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:10,720
person who's an adult is stronger than a

1037
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:13,390
child and is able to overcome them and

1038
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,250
so if they choose you know to just

1039
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:17,200
blatantly take something away from that

1040
00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:20,080
child including their life the child has

1041
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:23,020
no defense so there's no way that in a

1042
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,940
system like that you're ever going it's

1043
00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:27,280
not it's not balancing out really it's

1044
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:28,600
just the old people are going to feed

1045
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:30,010
off of the young until there aren't any

1046
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:32,500
left oh right right that's what I think

1047
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:35,080
is the inevitable result of that yeah I

1048
00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:37,150
mean I definitely don't endorse that or

1049
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,500
anything but it's kind of like a weird

1050
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,240
cause-and-effect you know it's not

1051
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:42,160
something where like the elite gaining

1052
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:44,890
mortality by eating a lot of pears you

1053
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:46,450
know it's like the cause of their

1054
00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:50,230
sticking around would also affect the

1055
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:52,300
upcoming population of the planet it's

1056
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,090
just a strange cause and effect but I

1057
00:42:59,100 --> 00:42:56,800
also did want to ask you about one

1058
00:43:01,850 --> 00:42:59,110
real-world example of this agenda of the

1059
00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:01,860
elite and or maybe they're being

1060
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:04,300
controlled by the beans that they're

1061
00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:05,770
communicating with but you wrote about

1062
00:43:10,410 --> 00:43:08,260
Obama's recent trip to Stonehenge saying

1063
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,420
that it was a further effort for from

1064
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:11,920
the elite to open up a portal between

1065
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:14,470
this world and the next and I've had

1066
00:43:17,130 --> 00:43:15,910
other guests who talk about this kind of

1067
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:17,140
thing and that being one of the major

1068
00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:19,660
agendas of the elite can you expand on

1069
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:20,830
that trip at all do you have any

1070
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:23,170
insights as to how it was more than just

1071
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:27,430
a trip to an interesting Monument but

1072
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:30,520
more it was like a an actual attempt to

1073
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:35,350
further this agenda well I'm just sort

1074
00:43:39,870 --> 00:43:37,150
of reading into things that appear in

1075
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:39,880
the news and in pop culture these days

1076
00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:42,640
like I said you see what can be

1077
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:46,180
interpreted as references to both these

1078
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:47,740
events and eating eaten that I'm

1079
00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:51,340
describing and also a future apocalyptic

1080
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,430
event and just like you said it's a one

1081
00:44:01,320 --> 00:43:57,520
of one of the what the event really is

1082
00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:01,330
is this opening of opening probably of

1083
00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:03,340
Hell but also it's more like the

1084
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:06,100
collapsing of a pillar so there's this

1085
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:08,320
image there's this idea that there's a

1086
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:12,630
pillar between heaven and hell and earth

1087
00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:14,830
connecting all these three realms and

1088
00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:17,750
that if it's disturbed in any way

1089
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,220
then it will collapse and they will all

1090
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:22,160
sort of join together and some people

1091
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:23,840
think that this is what CERN is going to

1092
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:26,150
do and in fact CERN is on the people

1093
00:44:30,490 --> 00:44:27,530
that run it are basically saying well we

1094
00:44:32,110 --> 00:44:30,500
don't know it might happen so and then

1095
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:32,120
of you Steven Steven Hawking the other

1096
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:33,770
day of saying well that that is what's

1097
00:44:38,410 --> 00:44:37,010
going to happen but as far as the the

1098
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,420
Stonehenge thing yeah I mean it's weird

1099
00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:40,400
you know these guys never just do

1100
00:44:44,530 --> 00:44:42,830
anything off-the-cuff of course there

1101
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:44,540
was a meaning to it a reason why you

1102
00:44:48,490 --> 00:44:45,530
know I'm subscribed to the Whitehouse

1103
00:44:50,170 --> 00:44:48,500
YouTube channel and I always get pissed

1104
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:50,180
off every day like this why you make a

1105
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:52,010
video about that but you don't make a

1106
00:44:55,950 --> 00:44:53,810
video about this and it's always some

1107
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:55,960
kind of self congratulatory

1108
00:45:01,180 --> 00:44:58,210
advertisement for how great Obama is

1109
00:45:02,650 --> 00:45:01,190
it's still disgusting so anyway this is

1110
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:02,660
one of those he's supposed to make him

1111
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:04,670
look cool and look at me and it still

1112
00:45:09,370 --> 00:45:07,970
hinged but um you know yeah they choose

1113
00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:09,380
which ones they're gonna do every day

1114
00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:11,240
and the way they presented this one it

1115
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,120
definitely looked like he's he walks in

1116
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:16,160
and he's like getting the information

1117
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:17,930
from the curator of the place about

1118
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:20,390
where's the exact center of the monument

1119
00:45:24,190 --> 00:45:22,010
and where was where's the Sun on the

1120
00:45:27,130 --> 00:45:24,200
Solstice it's over there oh okay and

1121
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:27,140
like as though he's like this Master

1122
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:29,510
Mason you know who has this deep

1123
00:45:34,510 --> 00:45:32,480
understanding of sacred geometry he's

1124
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:34,520
like it's so wonderful being here I can

1125
00:45:39,370 --> 00:45:35,270
feel the power

1126
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:39,380
mm-hmm and and then he got winks at the

1127
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,000
camera too as he's doing this he's like

1128
00:45:45,070 --> 00:45:43,760
spreading his arms out pointing towards

1129
00:45:47,410 --> 00:45:45,080
where the Sun would be during the

1130
00:45:50,170 --> 00:45:47,420
solstice and he winks at the camera and

1131
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:50,180
it's just kind of I don't know maybe it

1132
00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:51,710
was meant to make him look like some

1133
00:45:57,070 --> 00:45:54,950
sort of deity yeah he did being yes I

1134
00:45:59,050 --> 00:45:57,080
get that I mean for someone who's

1135
00:46:00,760 --> 00:45:59,060
looking into this type of thing you got

1136
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,770
a raise your eyebrow to something like

1137
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:02,480
that with all the things going on in the

1138
00:46:05,950 --> 00:46:04,250
world we're supposed to be so afraid of

1139
00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:05,960
Isis we're supposed to be so afraid of

1140
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:08,060
Russia you're going to Stonehenge the

1141
00:46:12,340 --> 00:46:10,250
leader of our country is hanging out at

1142
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,350
Stonehenge it does make make you seem a

1143
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:14,240
little skeptical if you're clued into

1144
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:16,730
this occult stuff yeah and so yeah I do

1145
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,310
I do see a lot of references really that

1146
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:21,920
could be interpreted as assuring in a

1147
00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:25,040
new age that's literally collapsing

1148
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:26,630
these pillars and merging the worlds

1149
00:46:30,070 --> 00:46:28,250
like I'm talking about and opening up

1150
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:30,080
the gates of Hell which is another thing

1151
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:31,430
that is emerged in the new

1152
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:33,170
lately you know Joseph Biden said it oh

1153
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:35,240
we're gonna oh we're going to follow

1154
00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:37,730
Isis to the gates of Hell and he repeats

1155
00:46:41,319 --> 00:46:39,230
it like two or three times to the very

1156
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:41,329
gates of Hell yeah hell is where they'll

1157
00:46:50,170 --> 00:46:45,470
reside yeah I saw that too I mean you

1158
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,180
know it could be nothing but um you know

1159
00:46:55,809 --> 00:46:51,920
I just have my eyes open like I said and

1160
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:55,819
and as far as is this something they're

1161
00:47:00,490 --> 00:46:58,880
trying to do well just from my own

1162
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:00,500
experience I told you that they you know

1163
00:47:05,290 --> 00:47:02,690
persuaded me to do certain things and it

1164
00:47:07,329 --> 00:47:05,300
wasn't just laid out in the beginning it

1165
00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:07,339
was like I followed a path I was pulled

1166
00:47:12,190 --> 00:47:10,700
along like a fish on a hook mm-hmm this

1167
00:47:14,859 --> 00:47:12,200
and you'll get this do that and it was

1168
00:47:16,420 --> 00:47:14,869
all about like write a book about this

1169
00:47:18,579 --> 00:47:16,430
write an article about this and

1170
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:18,589
presented in this way or present this

1171
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:21,170
information and and then they wanted

1172
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:23,690
they I had a you know this whole all the

1173
00:47:28,510 --> 00:47:26,030
spirit communications was sort of under

1174
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:28,520
the auspices of what my friends and I

1175
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:30,260
were calling the Ordo laps at excellest

1176
00:47:34,540 --> 00:47:32,030
this was our little secret society group

1177
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:34,550
and eventually these spirits persuaded

1178
00:47:39,250 --> 00:47:36,890
us to open it up to the public take

1179
00:47:41,289 --> 00:47:39,260
members from the public get blood oaths

1180
00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:41,299
from them sent to us through the mail

1181
00:47:45,069 --> 00:47:42,200
yikes

1182
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:45,079
and then they wanted me to write a book

1183
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,520
for the second-degree members of the

1184
00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:52,880
order so I basically went into a trance

1185
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:55,099
one day and didn't wrote this thing in

1186
00:48:00,250 --> 00:47:58,490
one day I didn't quite finish it and

1187
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:00,260
because I got scared at the end actually

1188
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:02,630
yeah it was a really freaky thing yeah

1189
00:48:06,819 --> 00:48:04,730
the document was really scares me even

1190
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:06,829
to this day and but I put excerpts from

1191
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,049
that large excerpts most of most of the

1192
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:10,880
document really ended up in clock

1193
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:12,710
shavings the the thing was called the

1194
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:17,770
strange service manual and in there I

1195
00:48:22,990 --> 00:48:21,010
just it's a manual for what the

1196
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:23,000
quartermaster's of the order who are

1197
00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:25,730
also eligible to be priests if they

1198
00:48:30,730 --> 00:48:28,520
wanted to we had we were trying to form

1199
00:48:34,089 --> 00:48:30,740
an organized a priesthood as we called

1200
00:48:37,809 --> 00:48:34,099
it and in writing magic rituals for how

1201
00:48:41,890 --> 00:48:37,819
to contact Baphomet and then form a

1202
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:41,900
contract with him for your local lodge

1203
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:44,960
and you and your local

1204
00:48:50,050 --> 00:48:47,750
could do all these rituals and you know

1205
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:50,060
he it would have various results so the

1206
00:48:54,670 --> 00:48:51,650
book had all these rituals in it and

1207
00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:54,680
also the is the description of what the

1208
00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:56,030
orders purpose was and what it was

1209
00:49:01,440 --> 00:48:57,380
trying to do what the purpose of the

1210
00:49:06,310 --> 00:49:04,359
so what it ended up being like one of

1211
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:06,320
the last chapters of the book was all

1212
00:49:11,950 --> 00:49:09,440
about what was called the Divine Right

1213
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,960
mm-hmm I'm channeling all this you know

1214
00:49:15,490 --> 00:49:13,520
this is the only thing that I've ever

1215
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:15,500
written where I would say it was as

1216
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:17,210
close to automatic writing as I've ever

1217
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:21,770
gotten Wow um and anyway so what it was

1218
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:23,930
is the Divine Right is this thing that

1219
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:27,230
we would do once a year around December

1220
00:49:36,099 --> 00:49:31,490
23rd where we would do a ritual

1221
00:49:40,510 --> 00:49:36,109
pretending to be crowning the Grail King

1222
00:49:43,870 --> 00:49:40,520
and that every year as we would do the

1223
00:49:46,329 --> 00:49:43,880
ritual goes like this that you crown him

1224
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,339
and then you sacrifice him and then he

1225
00:49:51,490 --> 00:49:48,880
is possessed with the spirit of Baphomet

1226
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:51,500
laughing that through him and he becomes

1227
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:53,710
this transcendent transcendent being

1228
00:49:58,540 --> 00:49:56,210
Andrew you know becomes then the lord of

1229
00:50:01,060 --> 00:49:58,550
the earth somehow and is able to rule

1230
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,070
the earth Wow well you know crowning him

1231
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:02,960
and sacrificing him where are we seeing

1232
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:05,450
that before you know that's Jesus right

1233
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:12,050
there yeah yeah well yeah it's at any

1234
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:14,330
rate so the idea was that we do this

1235
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:17,599
every year and at the time we were also

1236
00:50:22,089 --> 00:50:19,609
the order laps at Excellus actually

1237
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:22,099
became connected to this other thing

1238
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:23,570
called the dragon court that I was

1239
00:50:30,490 --> 00:50:27,680
involved in at the time and guy running

1240
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,500
it at the time was Nicolas de Vere he

1241
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:32,480
called himself Prince Nicholas de Vere

1242
00:50:36,550 --> 00:50:35,000
von der dragon bird and he said that

1243
00:50:39,609 --> 00:50:36,560
there he was the king of this kingdom

1244
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:39,619
called drakensberg and that it was like

1245
00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:41,510
this right well first of all he said

1246
00:50:46,329 --> 00:50:44,270
that he was a dragon dragons are like

1247
00:50:48,190 --> 00:50:46,339
basically descendants of these fallen

1248
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,200
angels that I'm talking about and he

1249
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:49,760
believed that they people of this

1250
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:53,210
bloodline had extra special magical

1251
00:50:58,599 --> 00:50:55,520
powers and that they were the rightful

1252
00:51:01,989 --> 00:50:58,609
heirs to certain Thrones but he

1253
00:51:04,329 --> 00:51:01,999
called the the kingdom that they that he

1254
00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:04,339
ruled supposedly Drakon burg and he said

1255
00:51:10,749 --> 00:51:07,640
that he actually went around saying that

1256
00:51:12,430 --> 00:51:10,759
like the the government of England and

1257
00:51:15,069 --> 00:51:12,440
other people and governments throughout

1258
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:15,079
the world would recognized his kingdom

1259
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:17,390
and that once it was created they would

1260
00:51:22,539 --> 00:51:19,249
they would you know give an official

1261
00:51:24,729 --> 00:51:22,549
recognition hmm so we were connected

1262
00:51:27,279 --> 00:51:24,739
with these people at the time and so

1263
00:51:30,910 --> 00:51:27,289
when we were talking about creating the

1264
00:51:33,099 --> 00:51:30,920
Grail Kingdom we actually had this in

1265
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,109
mind literally that this guy was going

1266
00:51:37,809 --> 00:51:35,599
to be the Grail King and he put on the

1267
00:51:39,339 --> 00:51:37,819
throne and then basically you know play

1268
00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:39,349
out what seemed to be the role of the

1269
00:51:45,579 --> 00:51:42,859
Antichrist once you think about it and

1270
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:45,589
the reason why we took his claim

1271
00:51:50,229 --> 00:51:47,569
seriously at all it was simply because

1272
00:51:52,749 --> 00:51:50,239
that's what Baphomet was at the time I

1273
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:52,759
was friends with this guy I was trying

1274
00:51:55,989 --> 00:51:54,529
to help him publish a book all rights

1275
00:51:57,729 --> 00:51:55,999
told him I was going to help him publish

1276
00:52:01,329 --> 00:51:57,739
a book but I really wasn't trying very

1277
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:01,339
hard I was busy with other things and at

1278
00:52:08,529 --> 00:52:04,670
one point Baphomet told us that she

1279
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,539
Baphomet had cursed us because we hadn't

1280
00:52:13,509 --> 00:52:11,119
fulfilled our requirements to Nicolas de

1281
00:52:15,009 --> 00:52:13,519
Vere to help him publish the book and we

1282
00:52:18,339 --> 00:52:15,019
said you know why you care about Nicolas

1283
00:52:21,210 --> 00:52:18,349
de Vere and she were told because she is

1284
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:21,220
related Baphomet is related to Nick so

1285
00:52:27,249 --> 00:52:24,049
the the spirits basically told us at the

1286
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:27,259
time that they were corroborating in

1287
00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:29,239
large part what Nicholas was saying

1288
00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:31,160
about himself and if you think about a

1289
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:33,230
dragon Berg is probably hell you know

1290
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:34,910
that's what that's actually the

1291
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:36,650
conclusion that I came to as I was

1292
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:38,569
writing this book and what gave me

1293
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:41,450
enough chills to put down my pen and say

1294
00:52:44,589 --> 00:52:42,559
okay I have to think about what I'm

1295
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:44,599
doing here you know this isn't basically

1296
00:52:48,849 --> 00:52:46,430
yeah I mean a ritual that would open up

1297
00:52:51,249 --> 00:52:48,859
the gates of Hell let this being

1298
00:52:55,299 --> 00:52:51,259
Baphomet come through and possess this

1299
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:55,309
person man yeah Obama doesn't need to go

1300
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:56,690
to Stonehenge you're gonna do the work

1301
00:53:01,029 --> 00:52:57,410
for him

1302
00:53:03,999 --> 00:53:01,039
yeah well fortunately maybe fortunately

1303
00:53:06,130 --> 00:53:04,009
I guess Nick didn't seem to have become

1304
00:53:08,349 --> 00:53:06,140
the Antichrist oh he he's dead now so

1305
00:53:10,989 --> 00:53:08,359
right hon someone else will have to play

1306
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:10,999
that role okay I wanted to double back a

1307
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:11,970
little bit

1308
00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:14,970
to the pillars pillars collapsing

1309
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:16,590
symbolism because of course we're

1310
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,020
recording this on September 10th it's

1311
00:53:22,849 --> 00:53:21,119
going to go up in a couple of days you

1312
00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:22,859
know I'm kind of sick of the 9/11 thing

1313
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:25,590
over so many years and I don't want to

1314
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:27,660
do a 9/11 show every year on this date

1315
00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:29,490
but it's interesting do you think there

1316
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,020
is any type of a cult

1317
00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:33,599
you know connection or symbolism between

1318
00:53:38,810 --> 00:53:36,180
the Twin Towers collapsing and the elite

1319
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:38,820
trying to usher in this type of portal

1320
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:41,609
opening probably I mean really you know

1321
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:43,170
yeah if that event was planned and even

1322
00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:46,530
if it wasn't as conspiracy of the

1323
00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:48,900
governments it was probably somehow

1324
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:50,550
could see so many things are being

1325
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:52,530
coordinated by demons I realize now you

1326
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,780
know I mean I don't mean I I know it

1327
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:56,700
sounds crackpot urge to just declare

1328
00:54:00,339 --> 00:53:58,410
that but I mean honestly this is just

1329
00:54:02,810 --> 00:54:00,349
what I think is going on there are these

1330
00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:02,820
weird coincidences that happen

1331
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:04,619
and you think how could the conspiracy

1332
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:06,660
be that vast but it isn't they're just

1333
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:09,720
the workings for people's minds mmm in

1334
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:13,260
very subtle ways so uh you know anything

1335
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:15,450
really you know could be interpreted as

1336
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:19,560
somehow being an omen of of what might

1337
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,330
be coming down the pike here and it's

1338
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:23,280
frightening to think about because I

1339
00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:26,730
enjoy living and I don't I don't want

1340
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:29,880
time to stop for anything and I keep

1341
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,270
talking about is not just some

1342
00:54:36,859 --> 00:54:35,520
apocalyptic mass death and things like

1343
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:36,869
that although that's part of the story

1344
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:39,599
that's just part of it and yeah like you

1345
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,510
said pillar is collapsing that's like

1346
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:44,480
the really the end of the story where

1347
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:48,270
what it results in finally is basically

1348
00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:50,310
a separation like an alchemical

1349
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:53,160
separation of elements of the good guys

1350
00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:55,050
in the bad guys the good souls and the

1351
00:54:58,900 --> 00:54:57,660
bad souls and they get put into the

1352
00:55:02,900 --> 00:54:58,910
things that are going to get preserved

1353
00:55:04,940 --> 00:55:02,910
get put into the ark into the one box of

1354
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:04,950
things and this is described in

1355
00:55:08,810 --> 00:55:07,170
Revelation as the New Jerusalem it's

1356
00:55:11,930 --> 00:55:08,820
this cubic City that descends from the

1357
00:55:15,230 --> 00:55:11,940
sky and all the righteous people go

1358
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:15,240
inside and their names are written in

1359
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,490
the book of life if your name isn't

1360
00:55:20,839 --> 00:55:18,720
written there it's like you don't exist

1361
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:20,849
you're stuck outside the gates of the

1362
00:55:29,050 --> 00:55:24,410
cube and outside is chaos

1363
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,060
yeah and so this is what I think is

1364
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:31,040
happening and there's a game being

1365
00:55:34,740 --> 00:55:32,930
played right now where the demons the

1366
00:55:38,530 --> 00:55:34,750
ones that are trapped on the lower realm

1367
00:55:40,540 --> 00:55:38,540
think that they can play this game right

1368
00:55:43,870 --> 00:55:40,550
in such a way that they will be the ones

1369
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:43,880
on the inside piloting the ark in

1370
00:55:50,050 --> 00:55:48,530
control of reality at the end but how to

1371
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:50,060
play their cards just right because

1372
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:53,450
otherwise everything that the book of

1373
00:55:58,210 --> 00:55:55,990
Revelation says will happen which is the

1374
00:56:01,240 --> 00:55:58,220
preservation of these few righteous

1375
00:56:03,490 --> 00:56:01,250
souls in this cubic City as it's called

1376
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:03,500
it's not really I mean it's a city in a

1377
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:05,330
very weird sense not in a traditional

1378
00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:08,990
sense but everything outside it's going

1379
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:13,400
to be utterly annihilated so does not

1380
00:56:18,790 --> 00:56:16,850
sound good no I mean and it's not and

1381
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:18,800
also - you think Falls is they'll be

1382
00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:21,530
annihilated so it'll be no big deal you

1383
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:22,790
know at the end you know if you've been

1384
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:24,290
annihilated you won't know it because

1385
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:25,610
you won't be there right yeah that's

1386
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:27,110
right but for something yeah I don't

1387
00:56:30,130 --> 00:56:28,400
think that's the end of it I mean it's

1388
00:56:33,730 --> 00:56:30,140
described as the lake of fire they

1389
00:56:36,940 --> 00:56:33,740
describe this eternal pain damnation so

1390
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:36,950
and I think it's kind of like the realm

1391
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:39,320
that they're in now only maybe worse you

1392
00:56:44,350 --> 00:56:41,150
know because the real that they're in

1393
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:44,360
now they they say that they don't exist

1394
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:46,310
or that they're not alive and yet you

1395
00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:47,600
can communicate with them and they're

1396
00:56:51,730 --> 00:56:49,790
doing things so it means that they're

1397
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:51,740
somehow having to endure the pain of

1398
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:55,490
death but they're still there's still

1399
00:57:00,990 --> 00:56:59,000
some consciousness there so I think that

1400
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:01,000
somehow that's what happens in the end

1401
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:05,920
and yeah so I'd rather it happen later

1402
00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:07,610
yeah of course

1403
00:57:13,210 --> 00:57:11,360
um man this is also fascinating and it's

1404
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:13,220
a whole different take on a lot of

1405
00:57:17,140 --> 00:57:15,290
things that are talked about and the

1406
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:17,150
conspiracy world all the time but

1407
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:19,190
without this added context so they seem

1408
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:21,530
a little bit off one example I've heard

1409
00:57:25,450 --> 00:57:23,450
you say in other interviews that you

1410
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:25,460
don't think it makes sense for the elite

1411
00:57:29,770 --> 00:57:27,980
to just leave us a code you know a lot

1412
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:29,780
of people talk about oh well all these

1413
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:31,160
symbols and stuff they're telling us

1414
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:32,450
what they're doing they're leaving us a

1415
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:34,310
code to figure out and I'm with you I

1416
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:35,750
don't really think that makes much sense

1417
00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:38,090
at all and you kind of alluded that it's

1418
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:39,500
probably the reason we see it is

1419
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:41,330
probably just for the sake of the magic

1420
00:57:46,450 --> 00:57:44,570
itself and one more thing about 911 that

1421
00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:46,460
I'm curious about is you know a lot of

1422
00:57:49,870 --> 00:57:48,230
people talk about these references to it

1423
00:57:51,970 --> 00:57:49,880
that have existed in movies and

1424
00:57:54,430 --> 00:57:51,980
television way before the actual event

1425
00:57:56,740 --> 00:57:54,440
you know in the Matrix Neos passport

1426
00:57:59,140 --> 00:57:56,750
expires on September 11th 2001

1427
00:58:00,820 --> 00:57:59,150
it's the Simpsons had a reference to it

1428
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:00,830
the Rugrats movie had a reference to it

1429
00:58:06,910 --> 00:58:04,160
and now I'm almost wondering if this is

1430
00:58:10,450 --> 00:58:06,920
the demonic muse you know the influence

1431
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,460
of the the subconscious of humanity

1432
00:58:16,090 --> 00:58:13,520
trying to push us towards that type of

1433
00:58:18,070 --> 00:58:16,100
event just a weird thought but I think

1434
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:18,080
that actually makes more sense than the

1435
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:19,490
idea that the elite have just been

1436
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:21,920
laying out the breadcrumbs way before

1437
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:26,570
the event yeah I think that this is

1438
00:58:32,410 --> 00:58:30,290
beyond human planning basically so yeah

1439
00:58:34,270 --> 00:58:32,420
all these little breadcrumbs as they're

1440
00:58:36,130 --> 00:58:34,280
thought of yeah the way they are

1441
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:36,140
breadcrumbs because I do think that

1442
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:38,930
these things are meant you're meant to

1443
00:58:42,580 --> 00:58:40,970
meditate on them and kind of be

1444
00:58:47,650 --> 00:58:42,590
entranced by them and be affected by

1445
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:47,660
them but the purpose really is to but

1446
00:58:52,510 --> 00:58:50,870
through your mind contemplating it that

1447
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:52,520
affects reality see this is the this is

1448
00:58:58,990 --> 00:58:55,760
the role I think we play why they they

1449
00:59:01,480 --> 00:58:59,000
the demons resent us and also need to

1450
00:59:04,510 --> 00:59:01,490
somehow take what we have and control it

1451
00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:04,520
is because we were put in the position

1452
00:59:09,970 --> 00:59:07,220
of interpreting reality and thereby in

1453
00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:09,980
awake and defining it if not creating it

1454
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:11,750
you know gods the creator but somehow

1455
00:59:18,490 --> 00:59:14,930
we're very instrumental and create in

1456
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,500
defining it yes our perception that's

1457
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:20,240
what they that's one of the things they

1458
00:59:26,490 --> 00:59:23,510
need us for and they're trying to

1459
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,500
utilize us drive us like a vehicle to

1460
00:59:30,610 --> 00:59:28,880
not only do certain things but believe

1461
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:30,620
certain things because when we believe

1462
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:33,530
them it makes them true Yeah right

1463
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:37,730
so yeah I think that some of these these

1464
00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:39,710
stories and archetypes that we get

1465
00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:41,470
exposed to over and over again just

1466
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:43,430
that's the effect that it has it has

1467
00:59:46,990 --> 00:59:45,050
like you said a magical effect every

1468
00:59:50,890 --> 00:59:47,000
time we're exposed to it it is a ritual

1469
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:53,049
it doesn't necessarily matter whether

1470
00:59:56,799 --> 00:59:54,770
we're consciously aware of what it means

1471
00:59:59,170 --> 00:59:56,809
or not right although more and more

1472
01:00:00,490 --> 00:59:59,180
people are becoming consciously aware of

1473
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:00,500
it but it's almost too late at this

1474
01:00:05,529 --> 01:00:03,770
point I mean I'm out of my depth

1475
01:00:07,029 --> 01:00:05,539
completely when it comes to trying to

1476
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:07,039
analyze this stuff I mean for one thing

1477
01:00:12,099 --> 01:00:08,990
I'm not really as plugged into pop

1478
01:00:15,609 --> 01:00:12,109
culture as others so I don't know what's

1479
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:15,619
going on in music and I I don't even I

1480
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:18,079
had to cancel my TV subscription a

1481
01:00:22,510 --> 01:00:19,520
couple weeks ago I never even watched it

1482
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:22,520
so I don't know what's what all's going

1483
01:00:25,930 --> 01:00:24,319
on but now every time I look into it you

1484
01:00:27,279 --> 01:00:25,940
know I'm just overwhelmed this I

1485
01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:27,289
couldn't I could spend the rest of my

1486
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:30,200
life analyzing this stuff and I would

1487
01:00:32,980 --> 01:00:31,609
never there would be so much more

1488
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:32,990
produced in the time that I spent

1489
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,410
writing about it yeah it is definitely

1490
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:38,480
confusing at times but so let's say you

1491
01:00:42,730 --> 01:00:40,880
got these demons or these fallen angels

1492
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:42,740
these entities and they've been

1493
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:44,690
persistent for who knows how long

1494
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,670
thousands of years maybe hundreds of

1495
01:00:50,410 --> 01:00:48,559
thousands of years and now they're

1496
01:00:52,539 --> 01:00:50,420
getting help from the powerful puppet

1497
01:00:55,630 --> 01:00:52,549
masters on the planet I mean it seems

1498
01:00:59,620 --> 01:00:55,640
like things are ramping up and this is a

1499
01:01:02,470 --> 01:00:59,630
weird time but I mean what can we do to

1500
01:01:04,329 --> 01:01:02,480
I guess fight back and not just like

1501
01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:04,339
acknowledge it and sit and wait for it

1502
01:01:07,870 --> 01:01:05,900
to happen I mean it seems like a pretty

1503
01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:07,880
devastating time I mean is it inevitable

1504
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:11,000
is there anything we can do to have a

1505
01:01:17,289 --> 01:01:14,569
more positive outcome here I I think it

1506
01:01:20,890 --> 01:01:17,299
might be inevitable yeah ouch

1507
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:20,900
if it's gonna happen so I mean you know

1508
01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:23,599
as little things like trying to well

1509
01:01:27,010 --> 01:01:25,220
even that I was going to say you know a

1510
01:01:29,319 --> 01:01:27,020
few weeks a few years ago I used to do

1511
01:01:31,690 --> 01:01:29,329
interviews sometimes about economics and

1512
01:01:33,789 --> 01:01:31,700
people would say what can we do and you

1513
01:01:36,250 --> 01:01:33,799
know I would give advice about me you

1514
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:36,260
know somehow trying to have you know a

1515
01:01:41,730 --> 01:01:38,960
revolution or create self-sufficiency

1516
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:41,740
for yourself but that's just about

1517
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:44,240
preserving yourself from financial ruin

1518
01:01:52,359 --> 01:01:47,410
and obviously there's no advice if

1519
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:52,369
there's a mass death from nuclear war or

1520
01:01:59,470 --> 01:01:55,039
diseases these things seem like they're

1521
01:02:00,940 --> 01:01:59,480
impending and coming and then the larger

1522
01:02:03,250 --> 01:02:00,950
thing of course is the collapsing of the

1523
01:02:04,450 --> 01:02:03,260
pillars I really don't think we can do

1524
01:02:06,750 --> 01:02:04,460
anything about that

1525
01:02:09,339 --> 01:02:06,760
it's a much larger plan and it's been in

1526
01:02:11,890 --> 01:02:09,349
the works from the beginning this is all

1527
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:11,900
programmed in from the beginning man

1528
01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:14,750
so I guess let me ask you then if can

1529
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:16,280
you give us any other examples of events

1530
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:19,970
in modern times that to you might might

1531
01:02:23,980 --> 01:02:22,490
point to possible attempts to open

1532
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:23,990
portals or have some type of

1533
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:26,690
relationship to doing the work of these

1534
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:31,190
entities well you know everything that I

1535
01:02:40,660 --> 01:02:33,890
might list would just be sort of a

1536
01:02:43,060 --> 01:02:40,670
ritual and hypnotic effort and there's

1537
01:02:46,450 --> 01:02:43,070
many of those but as far as actually

1538
01:02:49,060 --> 01:02:46,460
trying to break open the gates

1539
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:49,070
it's CERN I mean they've said that

1540
01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:50,510
that's what they're doing and it's all

1541
01:02:56,589 --> 01:02:53,780
throughout their logos and what they

1542
01:02:58,300 --> 01:02:56,599
choose to call their projects the

1543
01:03:01,180 --> 01:02:58,310
interviews that they do is what they say

1544
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:01,190
they're their experiments are they talk

1545
01:03:07,030 --> 01:03:04,130
about literally opening portals but they

1546
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,040
say oh they're so tiny I don't worry

1547
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:09,200
about early open for a little bit of

1548
01:03:13,210 --> 01:03:11,330
time just at a fraction of a second wait

1549
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:13,220
I mean how long does it take for the

1550
01:03:19,570 --> 01:03:16,970
universe to end how much of an opening

1551
01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:19,580
you have to make I don't think that that

1552
01:03:23,380 --> 01:03:21,920
can be measured or described right I

1553
01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:23,390
don't know what makes they're so

1554
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:25,070
confident about it I mean I guess maybe

1555
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:26,570
they're they've got big balls because

1556
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:29,510
they've done so many things working with

1557
01:03:32,859 --> 01:03:31,730
the models of theoretical physics and

1558
01:03:34,829 --> 01:03:32,869
they've been right or they feel like

1559
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:34,839
they've been right but I also think that

1560
01:03:39,579 --> 01:03:37,010
I've always just thought theoretical

1561
01:03:42,010 --> 01:03:39,589
physics is just kind of that's totally

1562
01:03:47,260 --> 01:03:42,020
crackpot ish but just as you're

1563
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:47,270
exploring the quantum realms of atoms I

1564
01:03:50,620 --> 01:03:49,910
think they just keep finding what

1565
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:50,630
they're looking for

1566
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:53,570
mm-hmm and maybe that's isn't that part

1567
01:03:57,220 --> 01:03:55,130
of the description of what quantum

1568
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:57,230
reality is that you're projecting so

1569
01:04:02,320 --> 01:03:59,440
much of it right at the observer effect

1570
01:04:05,579 --> 01:04:02,330
well I mean it seems to me you know this

1571
01:04:09,810 --> 01:04:05,589
is my just amateur observations that

1572
01:04:13,810 --> 01:04:09,820
they keep coming up with imaginary

1573
01:04:17,140 --> 01:04:13,820
particles and then they find them and I

1574
01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:17,150
don't know what the failure rate is but

1575
01:04:19,780 --> 01:04:18,440
it just seems like

1576
01:04:20,770 --> 01:04:19,790
the more they look the more they find

1577
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:20,780
what they think they're going to find

1578
01:04:26,260 --> 01:04:23,330
yeah like the more the more energy or

1579
01:04:28,660 --> 01:04:26,270
the more the more detailed the concept

1580
01:04:31,570 --> 01:04:28,670
you know as the concept or idea

1581
01:04:33,220 --> 01:04:31,580
the theory gets more defined then

1582
01:04:35,530 --> 01:04:33,230
eventually they find it maybe that

1583
01:04:39,450 --> 01:04:35,540
speaks to the human's ability to

1584
01:04:43,870 --> 01:04:39,460
co-create the universe it probably does

1585
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,880
but yeah I can't I don't I don't

1586
01:04:47,350 --> 01:04:45,440
understand what they're doing and I

1587
01:04:49,330 --> 01:04:47,360
don't think that very many people do and

1588
01:04:50,740 --> 01:04:49,340
that's really what's scary about it no

1589
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:50,750
one knew what the people with the atom

1590
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:52,570
bomb we're doing really you couldn't

1591
01:04:57,250 --> 01:04:55,850
it's very hard to just to wrap your mind

1592
01:04:59,560 --> 01:04:57,260
around it when they're doing to describe

1593
01:05:01,810 --> 01:04:59,570
what they did to make that bomb well and

1594
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:01,820
that's how that was a you know a long

1595
01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:03,650
time ago what they're doing now is way

1596
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:07,040
more complicated right and again I just

1597
01:05:13,060 --> 01:05:10,640
don't necessarily believe that they have

1598
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:13,070
a handle on the consequences plus you

1599
01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:14,720
got to think we what if these guys are

1600
01:05:22,030 --> 01:05:19,190
just possessed mad scientist's what I

1601
01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:22,040
experienced with the way that talking to

1602
01:05:27,340 --> 01:05:24,680
demons changed my perspective what I

1603
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:27,350
thought was reasonable and what I would

1604
01:05:33,010 --> 01:05:30,770
be willing to do basically just be and I

1605
01:05:35,050 --> 01:05:33,020
basically thought I was just following

1606
01:05:36,970 --> 01:05:35,060
the program because hey it's working you

1607
01:05:39,550 --> 01:05:36,980
know they're talking to me I'm learning

1608
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:39,560
the secrets of magic I might as well

1609
01:05:44,050 --> 01:05:41,810
just follow the program because learning

1610
01:05:46,270 --> 01:05:44,060
so much well if they're under a similar

1611
01:05:49,930 --> 01:05:46,280
spell whether they realize it or not

1612
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:49,940
from demons then their perspective of

1613
01:05:56,650 --> 01:05:54,110
what they should go ahead and try is is

1614
01:05:59,110 --> 01:05:56,660
warp and they may know that they're

1615
01:06:01,330 --> 01:05:59,120
opening a portal and think Oh it'll be

1616
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:01,340
great oh you know we'll bring the demons

1617
01:06:05,830 --> 01:06:03,290
in and they'll it'll be a revolution you

1618
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:05,840
know like you've read them the book of

1619
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:09,440
the law and right away Aleister Crowley

1620
01:06:16,030 --> 01:06:13,630
portrays the apocalypse I mean obviously

1621
01:06:19,690 --> 01:06:16,040
he was being told basically he and his

1622
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:19,700
friends are going to be you know the top

1623
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:24,710
[\h__\h] in the New World Order and it's

1624
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:26,210
okay that everyone else is dying because

1625
01:06:30,610 --> 01:06:28,610
you'll be you'll have your own seats of

1626
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:30,620
power and you'll be wealthy and be able

1627
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:32,110
to do whatever you want

1628
01:06:41,310 --> 01:06:37,450
oh I doubt that once once the gate is

1629
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:41,320
open basically there's no restraint from

1630
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:45,460
these beings and right I don't yeah

1631
01:06:49,410 --> 01:06:47,410
they're not going to hold their promises

1632
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:49,420
it's kind of like the sequel to Aladdin

1633
01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:51,610
because we know Jafar turns into a genie

1634
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:53,470
and all-powerful genie and he's put in

1635
01:06:58,290 --> 01:06:55,810
the lamp and then he has to coax someone

1636
01:06:59,640 --> 01:06:58,300
to bring him out and then once he's out

1637
01:07:01,200 --> 01:06:59,650
he's like I don't give a [\h__\h] about you

1638
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:01,210
I'm gonna kill you you know I'm gonna

1639
01:07:05,130 --> 01:07:03,520
just own everything you're screwed now

1640
01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:05,140
oh yeah

1641
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:09,820
well man yes this has been a real blast

1642
01:07:16,530 --> 01:07:12,880
I mean it's depressing it's definitely

1643
01:07:18,810 --> 01:07:16,540
dark but I always am willing to explore

1644
01:07:21,090 --> 01:07:18,820
what's going on beneath the veil beneath

1645
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:21,100
the surface and if that stuff is dark

1646
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:22,750
then so be it it doesn't mean it should

1647
01:07:26,730 --> 01:07:24,550
be avoided it means it should be talked

1648
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:26,740
about and understood so I really

1649
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:28,510
appreciate the conversation I had like

1650
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:30,730
eight pages of questions here we got to

1651
01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:32,710
page two and then just went off into

1652
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:35,350
crazy land and I loved it I loved it but

1653
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:37,330
I hope someday we can have another

1654
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:39,160
conversation and talk more about the

1655
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:41,710
alchemical properties of money and the

1656
01:07:45,810 --> 01:07:43,360
control system there because that's a

1657
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:45,820
whole can of worms as well but before I

1658
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:47,140
really do let you go do you want to let

1659
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:48,550
the people know again about your website

1660
01:07:53,130 --> 01:07:50,110
and where they can pick up some of your

1661
01:07:57,930 --> 01:07:53,140
previous books and your newest book yes

1662
01:08:02,280 --> 01:07:57,940
yes Tracy Twyman comm is my website is

1663
01:08:03,870 --> 01:08:02,290
easy to find too by googling and all my

1664
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:03,880
books are at this point I'm just

1665
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:05,890
forwarding everyone to Amazon for almost

1666
01:08:10,890 --> 01:08:08,890
all my books except the new one I'm

1667
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:10,900
still selling autographed pre selling

1668
01:08:16,740 --> 01:08:13,930
autographed copies so in about a week

1669
01:08:18,060 --> 01:08:16,750
I'll be able to the books will come from

1670
01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:18,070
the printer finally and I'll be able to

1671
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:20,470
ship off all the pre-orders and so

1672
01:08:24,210 --> 01:08:21,970
anyone who wants an autographed copy can

1673
01:08:25,860 --> 01:08:24,220
buy one in the next week or so and then

1674
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:25,870
I'll probably I'll probably at that

1675
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:27,520
point just shut it shut it off and just

1676
01:08:30,180 --> 01:08:29,830
send everyone to Amazon after that right

1677
01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:30,190
on

1678
01:08:34,710 --> 01:08:32,950
awesome well Tracy thanks again I mean

1679
01:08:36,540 --> 01:08:34,720
be careful out there don't let yourself

1680
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:36,550
become some tool for the maestro of the

1681
01:08:41,810 --> 01:08:39,910
Apocalypse well I'll try okay

1682
01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:41,820
all right well take care thanks a lot

1683
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:44,830
there we have it people man I really

1684
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:45,850
love that show

1685
01:08:51,090 --> 01:08:47,800
communing with the demon masters of the

1686
01:08:52,890 --> 01:08:51,100
elite Baphomet and Cain a dark new twist

1687
01:08:55,460 --> 01:08:52,900
on the Asian alien story child

1688
01:08:57,780 --> 01:08:55,470
sacrifices for immortality he-man

1689
01:09:00,360 --> 01:08:57,790
Obama's trip to Stonehenge portal

1690
01:09:02,730 --> 01:09:00,370
opening in CERN I mean Jesus Christ

1691
01:09:05,310 --> 01:09:02,740
well even Jesus Christ was in there

1692
01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:05,320
somewhere but man deep level darkness I

1693
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:07,150
thought it was interesting that boffin

1694
01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:08,890
had delivered his own cipher there's

1695
01:09:12,450 --> 01:09:10,630
something to these codes of language

1696
01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:12,460
Marty Leeds really woke me up to that

1697
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:14,590
one and here it is showing up again just

1698
01:09:18,060 --> 01:09:16,690
a few weeks later but if you enjoyed the

1699
01:09:20,790 --> 01:09:18,070
first half of that show please consider

1700
01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:20,800
signing up for THC plus and getting the

1701
01:09:26,250 --> 01:09:23,320
second half of not only this one but all

1702
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:26,260
the shows we do now for just 5 bucks a

1703
01:09:30,270 --> 01:09:28,510
month one dollar a show less than you

1704
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:30,280
would tip your bartender for a month of

1705
01:09:34,110 --> 01:09:32,650
conspiracy goodness I hope you find it

1706
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:34,120
worth the price of admission and if you

1707
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:35,770
can't afford it but really want to hear

1708
01:09:39,210 --> 01:09:37,359
the second hour I'm sure we can work

1709
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:39,220
something out email me at the higher

1710
01:09:44,900 --> 01:09:42,250
side chats at gmail.com but I really

1711
01:09:47,730 --> 01:09:44,910
think of this as a one-on-one

1712
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:47,740
interaction between you the specific

1713
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:49,720
listener and me if you think the show is

1714
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:52,510
worth it you know it is a small price to

1715
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:55,330
pay but in the plus episode for this

1716
01:09:59,180 --> 01:09:57,370
show we went deeper into how some

1717
01:10:01,350 --> 01:09:59,190
mainstream news stories might manipulate

1718
01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:01,360
populations to keep us away from these

1719
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:03,430
portals that are opening up how demonic

1720
01:10:08,670 --> 01:10:05,350
occult influences were a big part of the

1721
01:10:10,830 --> 01:10:08,680
Nazis quest how the Isis and Osiris myth

1722
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:10,840
is a story of sexual congress through a

1723
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:13,090
proxy which could allude to the nature

1724
01:10:17,610 --> 01:10:15,490
of the sex rituals of the elite some of

1725
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:17,620
the biblical stories from this other

1726
01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:19,480
perspective that the characters may have

1727
01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:22,300
been flipped or trying to get deep into

1728
01:10:26,670 --> 01:10:24,460
the religion of the elite the CIA's

1729
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:26,680
involvement with Berlin terrorist groups

1730
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:28,870
like Isis both myths message that the

1731
01:10:33,420 --> 01:10:30,970
gates of Hell have opened just like Siri

1732
01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:33,430
predicted right around the end of July

1733
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,800
it's a lot more darkness to brighten up

1734
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:38,320
your day so for the plus people I hope

1735
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:39,820
you thought the second hour was worth a

1736
01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:41,740
dollar in value and for the free folks I

1737
01:10:45,420 --> 01:10:43,480
hope you'll join the club the money bomb

1738
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:45,430
is coming along thanks to a few generous

1739
01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:47,590
donations one of a hundred dollars

1740
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:50,620
thanks to a specific listener who left

1741
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:52,750
the busy life in New York City to buy

1742
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:55,510
and renovate a villa in Sicily how cool

1743
01:10:59,700 --> 01:10:57,730
does that sound I get these messages all

1744
01:11:01,500 --> 01:10:59,710
the time that just by doing the

1745
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:01,510
show shining some light in the darkness

1746
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:03,370
poking around for answers but also

1747
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:05,650
realizing that as [\h__\h] up as a game is

1748
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:07,480
there are other ways to deal with it

1749
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:09,610
that can be more in line with your

1750
01:11:14,190 --> 01:11:11,320
vision of paradise and I think a lot of

1751
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:14,200
people are inspired by just that aspect

1752
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:16,290
of the message because it's heard so

1753
01:11:21,959 --> 01:11:19,390
rarely and this gets into that scary

1754
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:21,969
stuff about enlightening yourself eating

1755
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:24,010
the wrong Apple and getting that

1756
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:25,690
knowledge and the truth is just when you

1757
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:27,130
spend years working on yourself

1758
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:29,230
excelling in what you want learning

1759
01:11:32,250 --> 01:11:30,580
about the world you might be in a

1760
01:11:34,350 --> 01:11:32,260
position of power somehow I mean you

1761
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:34,360
might be a stronger more intelligent

1762
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,070
more knowledgeable person and that alone

1763
01:11:40,050 --> 01:11:38,320
has its power but you don't have to use

1764
01:11:42,030 --> 01:11:40,060
it to manipulate and enslave the people

1765
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:42,040
let me try to throw something out here

1766
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:43,570
let's imagine there's a secret Masonic

1767
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:45,370
Society of chefs where they learn to

1768
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:47,290
cook like Mason's know how to build

1769
01:11:51,930 --> 01:11:49,570
Gordon Ramsay would be the goddamn Grand

1770
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:51,940
Master he knows he's awesome he demands

1771
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:54,070
excellence for himself he's achieved a

1772
01:11:58,110 --> 01:11:55,870
high level of artistry in this life

1773
01:12:00,900 --> 01:11:58,120
higher than many people ever will but he

1774
01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:00,910
uses it to do these shows where he shows

1775
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:02,950
failing businesses how to have those

1776
01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:04,510
types of standards for themselves he's

1777
01:12:09,450 --> 01:12:06,460
an example and I think an inspiration

1778
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:09,460
for discipline focus drive and what it

1779
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:12,130
means for an enlightened person to share

1780
01:12:16,110 --> 01:12:14,110
that gift to create a win-win for

1781
01:12:18,690 --> 01:12:16,120
everyone he's the Jesus of the food

1782
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:18,700
world or maybe the Lucifer I don't know

1783
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:19,210
anymore

1784
01:12:24,330 --> 01:12:21,730
so I guess to get back to it nothing can

1785
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,340
go wrong by you expanding your reach

1786
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:26,560
knowledge opportunity and excellence and

1787
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:29,170
some people will use convenient excuses

1788
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:31,510
like oh that occult stuff is bad or evil

1789
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:34,090
to keep us from doing the hard work or

1790
01:12:38,430 --> 01:12:36,070
operating on a higher level but I say

1791
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:38,440
take up the magician's mindset command

1792
01:12:41,550 --> 01:12:40,239
the universe to your will and live the

1793
01:12:44,430 --> 01:12:41,560
life you want to live I mean what do you

1794
01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:44,440
here for but it's not easy you really do

1795
01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:47,020
have to do hard work to manifest the

1796
01:12:51,330 --> 01:12:49,150
things you want but unfortunately a lot

1797
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:51,340
of the people who do the work end up

1798
01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:53,050
using it against the ignorant but we're

1799
01:12:57,810 --> 01:12:55,780
not going to stop them by being ignorant

1800
01:12:59,400 --> 01:12:57,820
we have to rise to powerful positions

1801
01:13:01,740 --> 01:12:59,410
ourselves in one way or another and

1802
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:01,750
harness the same tools and education and

1803
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:04,030
lighten ourselves and then make better

1804
01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:06,310
choices less selfish choices bring

1805
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:08,440
ourselves up to the table rather than

1806
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:11,020
complaining from the floor like when Joe

1807
01:13:13,660 --> 01:13:12,400
Rogan says do you ever notice how the

1808
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:13,670
hippy people who just want to

1809
01:13:17,410 --> 01:13:14,960
share everything never have anything to

1810
01:13:18,970 --> 01:13:17,420
contribute that's the stigma I want to

1811
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:18,980
change I hate when I hear thoughts like

1812
01:13:22,930 --> 01:13:20,810
that that's the stigma we need to change

1813
01:13:24,939 --> 01:13:22,940
so let's fight the good fight and make

1814
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:24,949
yourself a stronger player 14 people

1815
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:26,960
we're gonna need it so that's it for me

1816
01:13:30,939 --> 01:13:27,710
this week

1817
01:13:37,860 --> 01:13:30,949
your move Bachman your [\h__\h] move

1818
01:13:42,010 --> 01:13:37,870
sweet dreams are made of these where my

1819
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:42,020
to disagree

1820
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:47,380
travel the world and seven seas

1821
01:14:00,689 --> 01:13:54,410
everybody's looking for something some

1822
01:14:08,650 --> 01:14:00,699
of them want to use you some of them

1823
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:08,660
wanna buy you some I don't want to abuse

1824
01:14:35,150 --> 01:14:47,239
you

1825
01:15:01,319 --> 01:14:54,620
sweet dreams are made of these Who am I

1826
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:01,329
to disagree travel the world and the

1827
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:08,650
seven seas everybody's looking for

1828
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:23,600
something wanna gain by you some of them